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  • #2735
    Matt (Admin)
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    Please post any tips and tricks you have developed during construction of your DIY Packraft! I frequently update the How-To pages based on your feedback, so you’ll be doing everyone a favor, and I always try to give credit where credit is due.

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    • #18551
      clcranor
      Participant

      Thanks.  I also have a 360 camera and a stick for it.  I was thinking of putting a fishing rod holder  in the spray deck, slightly smaller, right behind the back seat, and adding a strap tie-in for it further up one of the rear tubes.  most of the rivers I run have at least 1 stretch of class II-III and I want video of it.  I haven’t attached the spray deck to either boat yet (not finished with the second one).  I’ll post if I end up doing that.

      Clay

    • #18544
      clcranor
      Participant

      I didn’t know where else to ask this…  You have some great video paddling on your trips.  How do you secure your camera to the boat?  I can thin of several ways, but none of them will get the same high point of view you have….

      Clay

      • #18549
        Matt (Admin)
        Keymaster

        Thanks, Clay – I use a 360 degree action camera on the end of my trekking pole. The camera captures video of everything around it, and then I frame the shots when I’m editing at home. The trekking pole disappears from the shot because it’s hidden in the stitch line between the camera’s two lenses.

        It takes some experimenting to figure out the best places to rest the trekking pole in the packraft – what height the camera should be, how far away, etc. Maybe I’ll make a how-to video about that sometime if people are interested – that’s something I’ve been thinking about for years, but never bothered to do.

        Editing 360 video is time consuming, but it does give some unique perspectives, so I think it’s worthwhile sometimes.

        Cheers

    • #18438
      GReyn
      Participant

      With some advice from Matt I made some directional attachment points for adding an Alpacka raft backband. The photos are pretty self-explanatory if you’ve gotten to this stage of your build. Outer dimensions ~3.5″x6.5″.

       

      • #18439
        Matt (Admin)
        Keymaster

        Thanks for posting this! Cheers

    • #18204
      jJBB
      Participant

      I made my curved forms out of florist foam like this: https://www.walmart.com/ip/FloraCraft-FloraF-M-Foam-Disc-1-9-inch-x-9-8-inch-Green/593218875?from=/search

      It’s easy to cut a large and small form out of one disc using a bread knife. I added a few layers of aluminum foil before the masking tape to keep it from melting and had no problems. After reading Leslie’s tip above, I would probably use a strip of silicone instead of the foil. A single silicone placemat would probably work great and be enough material.

      It’s a good, cheap option for people who don’t have access to the tools to make them out of wood.

      • #18220
        Matt (Admin)
        Keymaster

        That is a great idea! I’m going to add these heat sealing form tips to the Heat Sealing page.

    • #16406
      Leslie
      Participant

      I picked up a silicone bread loaf pan from the the thrift store and cut the smooth outer edge off (the straighter and longer the edge the better… maybe a cake pan?).  I found this worked perfectly for welding seams as it has a slight give to it when you press with the iron and you don’t end up with nearly as many voids in the weld as you do when working on a hard surface. It is also fine with high heat, doesn’t stick and the underside of the weld is smooth and unblemished.

      • #16411
        Matt (Admin)
        Keymaster

        That is a great idea – I will try it myself!

    • #15668
      Luckyjim
      Participant

      Jigs and tools I used… The 8″ cast iron pan made a great Hot Iron holder. It also acted as a heat sink so the Iron did not get to hot. My first raft…..

      • #15669
        Matt (Admin)
        Keymaster

        Great idea! I find that the weight of the iron’s cord sometimes drags the light aluminum stand off my table – this would certainly solve that problem!

    • #14594
      heatshear
      Participant

      Weight-weenie idea: I cut some fabric out of the seat baffles. I expect these would be plenty strong if made out the 115 GSM fabric?

      seat baffle cut-outs

      • #14600
        Matt (Admin)
        Keymaster

        Yep, I’ve been testing seats made entirely of 115 GSM fabric and haven’t had a problem yet (except where I did a poor heat sealing job on one!).

    • #11270
      unnamedpeaks
      Participant
    • #11233
      unnamedpeaks
      Participant

      I found some very thin foam at a craft store, 1mm or less, and use this under the seams when I iron, as well as affix it to my bowl or form. It makes things WAY easier. The welding is faster, and requires less passes, usually can do in one go. If it’s too thick it causes problems, but if you can find some thin stuff to make the surface have a little give, you will love the result.

      • #11247
        Matt (Admin)
        Keymaster

        Cool – any idea what kind of foam it is? Thanks!

    • #6584
      alaskastinson
      Participant

      Turn it inside out.

      I tacked the 3 tube down using the cardboard tunnel, then turned the entire tube inside out and finished the seam.  I found this a lot easier than trying to chase bubbles and inspect the seam looking through the tunnel.  I thought I had a good seam until I looked it in the daylight and saw all the flaws.

      With minimal origami folding skills, I was even able to turn the entire raft inside out through the zipper hole.  After tacking the bow seam from the outside, I turned it inside out and ironed the bow 1-1 seam from the inside. (You’ll only be able to work on one side at a time, since the opposite side will be inside the other.)

      This method also works well for adding attachment points. Tape them to the outside, turn the raft inside out and seal away.  No AquaSeal needed.

      Hope this helps,

      Duncan

       

      • This reply was modified 5 years, 10 months ago by alaskastinson.
      • #6625
        Matt (Admin)
        Keymaster

        This is an excellent tip! I had just assumed it would be too difficult to turn the tubes inside out so I didn’t even try it. I’ll give it a go on my next build though!

        Thanks

    • #6166
      Matt (Admin)
      Keymaster

      I’m sticking this topic to the front page because it got buried – please post tips here instead of starting a new topic.

    • #2483
      Mike
      Guest

      Matt has some very good instructional videos on building his packrafts and all of the techniques will work to make a packraft.  I have a few methods that I have used that may be less of a challenge.

      I use a sticky stick and semi circle that works very well to hold the fabric while I weld on the belts.  These are simply put, 2″ wide masking tape secured to a surface sticky side up, either flat or ached.  The advantage is that you can lay your fabric on these surfaces and they will hold the fabric in place while you align the mating panel.  once the panels are aligned you can lay the belt centered over the panel joint and weld about a 4-6″ section without the fear of the fabric shifting.  After you weld your section you peel off the fabric and move up the panel to do the same procedure again.  I find this much faster than the bowl and parchment paper.

      Another I do is use a press block to press the welded joint after the weld rather than use the heat iron.  I use a different type of heat system but the same idea, heat up the fabric, remove the heat and run a pressing block over the weld to set it tight.  The press is nothing more than a piece of aluminum shaped like a boat with a wood block handle glued to it with JB weld.  It’s only about 3″ long and 1″ wide so it’s easy to add a lot of pressure to the weld and not strain your welding tool.

      Another thing I have done is to leave a window when welding up the final front and rear chamber weld.  This is really simple, at a point that is over the joint junction I only weld one side of the panels for about 4″.  After the “skip” on one side I continue the weld to the floor.  Now I can add the sealant to the intersection at the front and rear of the raft plus some sealant at the rear tight bend on the inside.  Once the sealant is dry I can go back and carefully weld the second half of the panel to the welding belt.

      I also have used a small box, not much taller than a shoe box to help in the “tunnel” work.  I cut a small hole in the top and taped a headlamp into it to shine down.  I also cut a hole at the back (away side) to allow a flashlight to shine through.

      These tricks have worked well for me but your mileage may vary.  If one or more of these help I’m glad to share

      Mike

       

      • #2490
        Mike
        Guest

        I tried to title the images but it didn’t take so

        First is the 4-5″ access hole in the front and rear center welds before final seam weld up.

        The box with the light in the top is next,

        Then the press block

        Then the sticky stick and sticky arch block with the masking tape mounted.

         

        Mike

      • #2489
        Mike
        Guest

        4-5" access hole before final weld

      • #2488
        Mike
        Guest

        Box light

         

      • #2487
        Mike
        Guest

        pressing block

      • #2486
        Mike
        Guest

        sticky stick and arch block

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